Thursday, February 18, 2010

I am at a loss for words

So, if you disagree with someone's opinion, how do you express it?  If you are anything like me, you would break out the reasons that you disagree and attempt to discuss it rationally with the person.  You may not always be able to resolve your differences but you can attempt to come to a common understanding - or at the very least agree to disagree.

Sometimes online discussions can get a little heated and there is the occasional barb or insult tossed at your opponent.   But for the most part, people manage to remain civilized.

Well, apparently for  a "gentleman" named Clay this is too much to ask.

It will not come as a shock to anyone who is familiar with this gentleman but he is a prominent advocate for the neurodiversity philosophy and expresses a strong dislike for people with autism who want a cure for their condition.  He is certainly entitled to his opinion and if he kept his opinions in the realm of polite discussion, there would be no problem.

Heck, if he kept his opinions in the realm of rude discussion, there would be no problem.

But alas, this gentleman has decided that even being rude and insulting was not good enough and had to take it to an entirely new level.  In a post on his site, this gentleman has posted a song mocking Jonathan Mitchell, an adult with autism.  The song starts off with -
I am the very model of the maladaptive autistic.
I've information personal, and most of it is very sick.
My mommy taught me autism has made me really defective
And after that it gets very, very bad.  I don't recommend reading the whole thing if you get offended easily ( or even if you, like me, don't get offended at much of anything).

Mr. Mitchell was understandably upset by this post and has posted a response on his own blog.

To say that this song is beyond insulting and degrading to Mr Michell is the understatement of the century.  There is no possible excuse or justification for this gentleman's behavior - especially coming from one who advocates for accepting people with autism as they are.

None whatsoever.

This gentleman is one the sorriest excuses for a person that I have ever seen and  I am at a loss for words to describe how repugnant his actions are.

And yet, if you look on this gentleman's site, he proudly displays a "Autism Hub" member icon.  For those of you unfamiliar with the autism hub (aka the home of neurodiversity), its mission is to -
The Autism Hub promotes diversity and human rights, with ethics and reality as the core guiding principles; aspects include empowerment/advocay, acceptance, and a positive outlook
Welcome to the acceptance of the neurodiversity.

31 comments:

  1. Hi MJ: Actually Clay wrote these satircal songs by me in other posts in other places on the internet and just reposted them in this latest post for some reason. I was just ignoring Clay until recently and felt that was the best way to deal with him and was not really upset at the songs per se. I finally ended up posting about it though because when John Best, one of the harshest critics of neurodiversity would use copyrighted photos google would honor DMCA takedowns. I made a DMCA takedown request with google and they did not respond and that is what started the whole thing. Clay Adams also often posts abusive comments to me on my blog which I won't publish.

    I suppose he could make a DMCA takedown with google for use of his photo on your blog, but I doubt that he will.

    Perhaps it was a mistake not to continue to ignore him but what is done is done.

    You are correct in pointing out the hypocrisy of Dave Seidel and other hub members for continuing to link to Adams' blog when they claim they are about acceptance and respect for those on the spectrum. There is also the double standard that they complain when John Best does this sort of thing to them but it is okay for Clay Adams to do it to me.

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  2. Jonathan,

    Perhaps you are right that the best way to deal with people like this is to ignore them. But the fact that Clay took the time to write and/or collect these and post them on his site says that he is not going to let this drop.

    The hypocrisy and the spitefulness of people like Clay is really starting to get old and I am getting tired of dealing with people like him.

    Although, along the same lines, I disagree with what Best does as well. He may have some valid points but the way he goes about saying it is not acceptable. The only thing saving him from being as bad as Clay is that he does not preach acceptance.

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  3. When Mitchell stops criticizing those who are actually improving the situations for autistics, (and I don't mean me), I will stop criticizing him. That was my reason for getting on his case, and when he stops, I will.

    Also, see reply on Astrid's Journal.

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  4. Clay -

    Just because you think that someone did something that you don't like does not give you the right to act however you please.

    Even a child knows this.

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  5. I know he did something I don't like, and I have just as much right to criticize him as he has to criticize anyone else.

    Jon's right, I don't mind that you have my picture there, it's a damned good picture, taken by a friend. As I see it, it's publicly available, so no big deal.

    You really should read more of my posts. I often talk about some of the jobs I've had, and how they ended, and how that related to being on the spectrum.

    And I'm actually trying to help Jonathan, make him aware of a few things. Ever hear of the farmer who bought a mule from another farmer, but brought him back because the mule wouldn't plow? The original owner whacked the mule with a 2X4, and got him to plow, explaining, "First, you got to get his attention."

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  6. Clay,

    You still miss the point.

    You can criticize what Jonathan says or his ideas until you are blue in the face and I would not say anything.

    That is what the expression of ideas is supposed to be about. He says one thing, you disagree, you can talk about where you disagree - or even agree to disagree and continue on your own way with your beliefs.

    That isn't what you did though. You attacked him personally and mocked his disability.

    That is completely unacceptable - especially coming from someone who claims to speak for acceptance.

    P.S. Jonathan is not a mule, he is a person.

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  7. It's not acceptable for you to define what "neurodiversity" means, or say who belongs to it and who doesn't.

    The mule was an analogy, an apt one, because it's practically universal that autistics are stubborn. I know I am! ;-)

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  8. Clay,

    You still are missing the point, so let me highlight it for you -

    "There is no possible excuse or justification for [your] behavior - especially coming from one who advocates for accepting people with autism as they are."

    This has nothing to do with the membership committee of ND and everything to do with your actions and how they contrast with what you say you believe.

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  9. ""There is no possible excuse or justification for [your] behavior -

    I don't have to "justify my behavior" to you.

    "especially coming from one who advocates for accepting people with autism as they are."

    I'm in favor of civil rights too, equality for all, but that doesn't mean I have to condone the behavior of a specific black person who behaves badly, whether it's pissing in public on the side of a building, or rape and murder.

    Advocating for any group doesn't mean you have to accept the actions of any one particular person.

    If Jonathan wants to "oppose "neurodiversity", then I am some vocal opposition to that. He can't just take pot-shots at us, and then hide behind his disability. I am similarly disabled, and I don't care whether you accept that or not.

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  10. "I don't have to "justify my behavior" to you."

    Nope, you certainly don't. And yet, here you are.

    "but that doesn't mean I have to condone the behavior of a specific black person who behaves badly, whether it's pissing in public on the side of a building, or rape and murder."

    No, but it doesn't mean that you can use racial slurs or insults to call out improper behavior in a minority - regardless of what they did.

    In a similar fashion, just because you disagree with his positions doesn't mean you can mock his disability.

    "He can't just take pot-shots at us"

    I keep saying this but you seem to seem to keep missing it - "He did it first" is not an excuse for your actions.

    "I am similarly disabled, and I don't care whether you accept that or not."

    Well, technically, yes you have a diagnosis of aspergers that you acquired as an adult a little over 10 years ago. I would think you would have been in your forties - maybe fifties when you were diagnosed? By your own accounts you have lived a semi-successful life in spite of not knowing of your diagnosis and have comfortably retired.

    You may be on the spectrum but you seem to have gotten around the more disabling aspects of it. It is utter shit to then turn around and mock those who have not been as fortunate. Or perhaps you agree with Carley?

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  11. "Nope, you certainly don't. And yet, here you are."

    Yeah, I saw the irony in that when I wrote it. But you deserved an answer.

    "No, but it doesn't mean that you can use racial slurs or insults to call out improper behavior in a minority - regardless of what they did."

    Yes it does, if you are part of the same minority. I'm sure you're aware that many black people use the "n" word freely among themselves. This is the exact same situation.

    "I keep saying this but you seem to seem to keep missing it - "He did it first" is not an excuse for your actions."

    Whatever, dude, but to reiterate my position, as long as he keeps it up, so will I. He doesn't get a "free pass".

    I will add that I am heartened by recent statements by you and Jon, that you are not "with" Best on much of what he writes. And that Jon said that he had no actual knowledge as to whether Amanda was copying Droopy or not. Shows a real ability for rational thought. I see Stephanie Lynn Keil thinks Droopy needs psychotherapy, and so do I. (I do feel compassion for her, of course. Rough life.)

    "By your own accounts you have lived a semi-successful life in spite of not knowing of your diagnosis and have comfortably retired."

    Semi-successful? Did you read my post about being a "weed-abater" on the All-American Canal, cutting, stacking and burning weeds for 9 months in 110 degrees or so, only to be fired because of a problem with a co-worker? Or being fired from a Jack-in-the-Box for refusing to put out half-cooked food? Or the - never mind, you're intelligent, I'm sure you see my point.

    "Or perhaps you agree with Carley?

    Again, as I said in my post, "True Neurodiversity Welcomes DSM V", I agree with Carley about nothing, he has never belonged to "neurodiversity", and is only looking out for himself.

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  12. "Yes it does, if you are part of the same minority."

    Ah, now I understand were you are coming from. It is still very wrong, but at least I can see how you justify it to yourself.

    "He doesn't get a "free pass"."

    Neither will you.

    "that you are not "with" Best on much of what he writes"

    I certainly disagree with how Best says what he says and on the conspiracy aspects but I do agree with some few of the underlying ideas.

    "as to whether Amanda was copying Droopy or not"

    I have no real opinion to on that but I am no fan of Amanda either. Given what Amanda has written about her own history, I have doubts about her condition. She certainly has something going on but I doubt that it is LFA or even moderate autism.

    "Or the - never mind, you're intelligent, I'm sure you see my point."

    Hmm, doesn't this count ?

    "Retired 4 years early, as a result of having made some astute investments (laugh everybody), and is now living with no chains, anchors, encumbrances or debts. "

    If I ended up that way I would consider myself at least semi-successful.

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  13. @ MJ - I meant to say earlier, for someone who is at a "loss for words", you sure have plenty of them.;-)

    "It is still very wrong, but at least I can see how you justify it to yourself."

    If I told you that I knew for sure that some of Jon's attacks have caused a certain Canadian so much stress, (and her method of dealing with stress was cutting herself), and I was attempting to get him to stop those attacks, would you understand then? Well, I can't tell you that I know that for sure, but I suspect it's true.

    The way he criticizes people who are putting themselves on the line to benefit all autistics, including your daughters, makes me think that somebody is paying him to do it. He has never replied to that, and is one of the things I'm pressing for. Is his mother supporting him - or JB Handley? Jon's way has nothing to help your daughters.

    Re Best - his whole thing is thimerosal causes autism. It's the root of all his nastiness, toward anyone who doesn't agree with him. That's been proven false many, many times. He used to lie about me, saying that I had never been in the service. I proved that wrong. He still lies about me, calling me a drunk. Nope, my parents were problem drinkers, saw them drunk many times. Not for me. I prefer pot, was into it big during the 70's, and would do it now if I could get it legally. It's nice, far better than Lorazepam, (which I have in my cabinet, but seldom take).

    As I explained to Harold on my blog earlier today, the (laugh everybody) indicated that I was being facetious. I've never made any kind of investment, never owned a stock or bond. I did get a pension benefit, which I took as a lump payment, and put in an IRA. Years ago, I got a small inheritance when my mother died. I squirreled it away, I don't want to spend that money. But it's there, if I need it, which I don't, because I know how to live frugally.

    It's curious that you took that literally, even though I indicated I was being facetious. Are you sure you're not on the spectrum?

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  14. @ MJ - What do you think of Mitchell now picking on Astrid (and everyone else, apparently), who has just announced that she's going on a neuroleptic drug? Doesn't she get a break from his attacks? Notice his parenthetical remark of her to the effect that "it's highly dubious one can believe anything a neurodiversitite says". Really makes me wish I had a cyber 2 by 4.

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  15. Clay,

    "I meant to say earlier, for someone who is at a "loss for words", you sure have plenty of them"

    You should see me when I am not at a loss.

    Regarding the Canadian, I think you know who you are referring to so let me answer that is a few parts -

    First, I can understand self-injurious behaviors as there was a period about year ago one of my daughters starting hitting and scratching herself every time she got upset. She did quite a bit of damage to herself and it got to the point we had to restrain her hands to stop her from causing serious injury to herself. So, trust me when I say I can understand how serious it can be.

    Second, if I am guessing the person correctly, they like to talk about how autism isn't a disability and just a difference. If they are going to put of their ideas, they have to expect that other people are going to answer them and not all of the answers will be kind.

    Third, if it bothers the person that much, they should just ignore it or not read it. I have seen other people (Phil Gluyas) suggest that simply knowing that the comments are out there causes them grief but I can't say that I understand that line of reasoning.

    Fourth, if you think this is really happening, then the way to handle it (imho) is to talk privately with the people involved and try to broker some understanding. If you can't deal with people being critical of your work, then you have some issues that need to be dealt with but I don't think that either person is irrational or intentionally tring to cause harm.

    "The way he criticizes people who are putting themselves on the line to benefit all autistics, including your daughters"

    There we disagree, and quite strongly. I don't view the majority of actions by the ND group as being beneficial for my children. I think some of the actions are downright harmful.

    "makes me think that somebody is paying him to do it."

    Are you trying to channel Best or was this just an drive-by possession?

    "Re Best - his whole thing is thimerosal causes autism."

    You are correct, he is obsessed with the idea and takes it ridiculous extremes. Although, as a parent, I can understand where the depth of his feelings are coming from, even if I don't agree with the result.

    Now, here is the thing. I think it is possible for vaccines in general and possibly thimerosal specifically to act as the final straw or trigger of a regression into autism. I don't think it is particularly common and I don't think just a vaccine alone could do it (there has to be something else going on as well). But if the conditions were right, I could see it happening.

    I believe that three consecutive shots in a row pushed my twins into a regression, I wrote about it here http://www.autismstreet.org/weblog/?p=367#comment-20325.

    Just to be clear, I don't think that vaccines are responsible or are even involved in every case of autism, but for a small group of children, there could be a relation.

    Does this make me one of "those" anti-vax people? I don't think so. We do vaccinate our children because we think vaccines are important.

    We did change slow down the shots and give them one at a time for my youngest daughter and, while she still has autism, she never had a regression like her sisters did and is much less severe. If she keeps progressing the way that she has with her therapy, she is likely to end up as one of the "recovered" children.

    Until we know what causes autism or even what the biological effects of autism are, I think it is premature to say that something can't be involved.

    "I was being facetious"

    I guess I missed that part. Although, if Harold also made the same mistake, perhaps the joke isn't clear?

    "Are you sure you're not on the spectrum?"

    Now that is funny.

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  16. "picking on Astrid (and everyone else, apparently), who has just announced that she's going on a neuroleptic drug"

    I don't think these events are related. She did not talk about going on the drug in the post he (and I ) responded to and I did not notice it until after you pointed it out.

    Astrid seems to be more of an idealist that most people I have read, but I have not read enough of her writing to be sure of that.

    "Doesn't she get a break from his attacks? "

    Do you view his remarks as attacking her ideas about ND or attacking her as a person? I have no problems with people talking about ideas (even if they are harsh about it) because once you put your ideas out there you can expect people to respond. Where I draw the line is when the attacks become personal and I don't see him doing that.

    "Notice his parenthetical remark of her to the effect that "it's highly dubious one can believe anything a neurodiversitite says"."

    I don't see what you are referring to - which line specifically are you referring to?

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  17. "they like to talk about how autism isn't a disability and just a difference."

    Incorrect. She talks about how autistics deserve respect, and should be treated with the same ethical standards as are applied to others. She does not consider herself part of "neurodiversity", and has major disagreements with many who are involved.

    "If they are going to put of their ideas, they have to expect that other people are going to answer them and not all of the answers will be kind."

    That applies to Mitchell as well.

    "talk privately with the people involved and try to broker some understanding."

    This person has never said anything bad about Mitchell, and so far, he hasn't really allowed dialog with me.

    I knew a woman online once whose daughter apparently contracted Crohn's by a Hep B shot. Must be true, she got half a mil in court. It can happen in a very small percentage of cases, I guess.

    I'm sure you would consider me "recovered", but I can assure you, that is not the case. It's always been a "sink or swim" situation for me, and of course, I decided to swim, but I am still indelibly, intrinsically, autistic. It still affects me in huge ways, primarily, socially.

    Instead of writing (laugh everybody), I should have said, "BaDUMpum!" instead? Harold is a dolt who subjects his son to dog training, and yes, I agree with the Canadian who says that ABA is not the best way of teaching autistic children. Harmful, in fact.

    Jon said: "I concede I don't know what all your exact positions are on these issues, assuming you are being honest (certainly a dubious assumption where any ND proponent is concerned) then perhaps you really don't believe in neurodiversity and in actuality you should consider the company you are keeping.

    Jon is sort of an expert at making sly jibes, like that parenthetical remark, a skill I'm sure he learned from his mother. His entire argument in that post is specious, and gives incorrect quotes, and assumes that Judy Singer is part of "neurodiversity" which she assuredly is not.

    I'm going to ask you again to read more of my posts. You should be able to compare the tone used, and decide for yourself who is right.

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  18. "Incorrect"

    Did you see where she suggested that autism does not belong in the DSM? Autism is a disorder and needs to be treated. I will grant you that some of the problems are social in nature but the vast majority - especially in young children - are medical in nature.

    "She talks about how autistics deserve respect"

    That is the wrong way to think about it. A specific group does not deserve respect - every person does.

    "should be treated with the same ethical standards as are applied to others"

    And yet she never says specifically what "ethical standards" are being violated but rather just says that there ethical problems.

    "That applies to Mitchell as well."

    It applies to everyone but, as I think I made clear earlier, there is a line between talking about ideas and attacking the person.

    "It still affects me in huge ways, primarily, socially."

    If you say its true, I believe you. But consider that other people, especially young children, have a harder time and have not learned how to cope and the core of their problems are not social ones but rather basic communication and living skills.

    "Harold is a dolt who subjects his son to dog training, and yes, I agree with the Canadian who says that ABA is not the best way of teaching autistic children. Harmful, in fact. "

    And there we are going to have to disagree, again strongly. We use ABA with my children and it has actually brought them a long way. I don't think the older two would be able to talk without the "dog training".

    I will admit that when we first started I had doubts about how it was done and whether it was, to use your phrase, "dog training". But after watching how it is actually done, how much my girls enjoy their time with the therapists, and (especially) how effective it is at teaching skills, I have to agree with Harold that it is effective.

    In practice it is nothing like the Canadian suggests - it is really just a method of teaching that happens to be effective when one of the main obstacles to understanding is comprehension. In reality, it is not really that far from what is done in any educational setting.

    Remember having to memorize multiplication tables - do you think that was unethical too?

    Have you ever watched how it works in person (when done correctly) or are you basing your opinion on you tube videos and what people have written?

    "Jon is sort of an expert at making sly jibes, like that parenthetical remark, a skill I'm sure he learned from his mother"

    Can you see the irony in your remark - I highlighted it for you.

    "I'm going to ask you again to read more of my posts"

    I have read some of them it the past but I will try to in the future. I have honestly stayed away for the same reason that I don't read what Best writes.

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  19. "Are you trying to channel Best or was this just an drive-by possession?"

    I can assure you that it was a reasonable question. Mitchell lost his last job about 3 years ago. Is his mother supporting him now? (Perfectly understandable if she is), or is he being paid to write his anti-autism diatribes?

    The opening line of the first satire I wrote, "I am the very model of the maladaptive autistic", was the inspiration of my little campaign. Everything after that shows just how maladaptive he is.

    To adapt to anything, one must first accept what is, and not sit and wish things were different.

    "I have read some of them it the past but I will try to in the future. I have honestly stayed away for the same reason that I don't read what Best writes.

    That indicates that you have no discernment, sir. You can't judge the totality of my writing just by this satire on Mitchell.

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  20. "I can assure you that it was a reasonable question"

    So we are talking a full-on possession here. OK, the important thing is to not panic. I think if you visit a local church they will be able to help you out, just tell then that you have been possesses by the demon on thimerosal and they should know what to do. Or, if that doesn't work, try chanting "there is no conspiracy" until the thoughts pass.

    But seriously, I don't think it matters how Jonathan earns money and I don't think it is any of our business. This line of reasoning sounds very similar to claims from the AoA crowd that ND bloggers have to be on the payroll of big pharma.

    "To adapt to anything, one must first accept what is, and not sit and wish things were different."

    The first step in changing something to decide that you don't accept that you are limited to what you are now. It is important to understand where you are at now and to be realistic about it but you don't have to resign yourself to only being that. You don't sit around and wish things were different but rather decide where you want to go and start working in that direction.

    "You can't judge the totality of my writing just by this satire on Mitchell. "

    You are correct, I was also considering comments that you have left on various sites. You tend to take a negative tone in them as well. But as I said, I am willing to give it a shot.

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  21. MJ: It is not a reasonable question. It is really none of Clay's business where my money comes from. He just wants to harass me because my handicaps have made it very tough for me in the work place and I gave up working after being fired from like 20 jobs. So if my parents support me he can just become Bettelheim and claim that all of my opinions are from my horrible parents. If I am on the take and am calling him and other mean-spirited neurodiversitites out then I am corrupt so I just can't win. The funny thing he accuses me of being on someone's payroll, just because I criticize neurodiversity but it is his Canadian friend whom he admires so much who does not even like him in return and has blocked him on their twitter sites who is on the payroll of autism speaks, an organization that Clay claims is one of the curebie organizations that is supposedly influencing me to write all of these unfavorable things about ND movement. It is a matter of public record that the organization that Clay claims is out to exterminate all autistics finances his Canadian friend.

    Because his Canadian friend does not even hold him in the same regard as he holds them it is highly likely he is just making upthe whole story about my being the cause of them cutting themselves, since I doubt they would even correspond with him or talk with him at all considering Clay is a big support of ASAN and this person spends a lot of their time talking about how ASAN has wronged them. For some strange reason they don't seem to mention how much I've wronged them, so it is likely Clay causes them more consternation than I do and he does not mind that they are on the payroll of a pro-cure autism organization. All par for the course for Mr. Adams

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  22. "MJ: It is not a reasonable question"

    I agree, see my last comment. If it is none of Clay's business (or mine) how you earn a living nor do I see any signs of payola in what you write.

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  23. "The first step in changing something to decide that you don't accept that you are limited to what you are now. It is important to understand where you are at now and to be realistic about it but you don't have to resign yourself to only being that. You don't sit around and wish things were different but rather decide where you want to go and start working in that direction."

    You are both cordially invited to visit today's blog, at:
    http://cometscorner-clay.blogspot.com/2010/02/inspirations.html

    A nice lot of inspirational messages that I picked out, many of them with Mitchell in mind.

    Jon, I'm pretty sure that I've lost 30 to 40 jobs, so you've got nothing on me there. STFU about Bettelheim, you obviously don't even understand his theory. No one has said you became autistic because she was cold and distant, I suspect that instead of those, she was manipulative and smothering. YOU WERE BORN THAT WAY, but you knew she considered you broken, did all she could to try to fix you, and taught you self-loathing. She didn't value you as you are, and neither do you.

    We know you no longer work, so how are you getting on? It's a relevant question.

    Yes, my friend has a disagreement with ASAN, not specifically with me. She blocked everyone on the ASAN Discussion list, (at least 3 others), for the same reason. I'm on record on TMoB as saying that is irrational, a "guilt by association" thing, but that doesn't mean that I don't continue to admire and respect all that she does in the way of advocacy.

    "he does not mind that they are on the payroll of a pro-cure autism organization."

    How many times do we have to tell you before it sinks in that she is ON THE DOLE, and is not paid for her work, which she does as a volunteer? She's all about the science, and would not "sell out" to further any others' agendas, anyway.

    And please check my blog tomorrow, got another letter to you, and an offer to remove ALL 4 of the pictures I (will) have published of you.

    Ooh, and Mike, the day after that, there'll be a letter to you. Wrote it up this afternoon.

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  24. Clay,

    I think we have had the chat about being at least civil towards other people leaving comments. You are crossing that line again.

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  25. My apologies, but you know that I've corrected him again and again about his twisting of the Bettelheim theory. I guess he just doesn't want to give up a good strawman.

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  26. I believe that he just has a different opinion on the matter than you do.

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  27. Either he's using it for a strawman, or he simply doesn't understand what Bettelheim said, or what I'm saying. I've stated it clearly in the letter to him, which will be released tonight at 11:20 PM our time.

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  28. Does that mean it is time for round 2?

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  29. No need to rush, let's let things unfold.

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  30. Clay normally I don't have a dialogue with you, but yes, you are another Bettelheim because you state that my self-stimulatory behaviors, my dysfunctioning impairing from serving in the military if i wanted to and the fact i was unable to marry like yourself were due to my mother's negative influence of me, so I stand by my contention you are a 21st century reincarnation of Bettelheim.

    As far as this person being on the payroll of AS, it does not matter whether or not they are getting a salary from the orgnaization, whether or not they are paying their rent, treating them to dinner or taking them out to the movies. They are paying for the research they do which is probably the greatest joy of their life. It is not different to me than paying rent or dinner.

    As far as selling out as far as I am concerned this person has sold out. They have basically stated that autism speaks wants to destroy the lives of autistic people even if it was not quite in those words. So basically they have sold out no question in my mind. They have placed their desire for pleasures in life before their moral principles.

    Normally I won't respond to you, because I have always tried to be civil in my exchanges and if I had a continued dialogue with you I would most likely respond in a way that is just as boorish as your usual responses.

    Feel free to write me and MJ all the letters you want. I can't speak for MJ but I am probably not going to read them. I doubt that even many of the fans of your blog will bother to read them either.

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  31. In response to Jon's recent "Ransom Notes" comments, I just sent this to him:

    "well-known neurodiversity blogger "the autistic bitch from hell""

    Jonathan, I am so proud of you, you finally got it right. She's the autistic bitch from hell.

    Also, I don't think you should be made into cat food. I like cats too much for that. Maybe feed you to the pigs? (Which I don't eat, btw.)

    "claiming there was an easy release from the abyss of autism,

    I piss in your abyss. A cry for pity, is all that is. I do pity you, if that helps any.

    As for your declining to respond on my blog - buck, buck, buck, bawk! I would have immediately removed your pics from my blog posts.

    "I doubt that even many of the fans of your blog will bother to read them either.",

    All of my posts about you have done exceptionally well, reader-wise. You can verify with my site meter.

    Be sure to catch tomorrow's post, MJ. It's a nice one.

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