If you don't know what all the drama is about when it comes to thimerosal in vaccines and autism, well you must have been hiding under a rock for the past decade. You might want to just go back there and skip this post, it will be better for your sanity.
Anyways, I can't talk about the details of the study because it is in Polish and I can't read Polish. But two things did jump out at me as I was reading the abstract.
First, vaccines that contain thimerosal are still in routine use in Poland.
That surprised me a little bit since the safety of using thimerosal as a preservative in vaccines was first questioned more than twenty years ago. I thought that most of the first and second world countries had moved away from using it by now.
Second, you can't just a study by its title.
The title of this study is "Lack of association between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism" and most of the abstract matches the title. They included children with and without autism, determined how much thimerosal each child was exposed to (not sure how), adjusted for other confounding factors, yada yada yada, and concluded "no significant association was found between TCVs exposure and autism." Just what you would expect from your run of the mill thimerosal study.
But then there is this one little sentence -
After adjusting to potential confounders, odds ratios of the risk of autism developing for infants vaccinated with TCVs were 1.52 (95% CI: 0.29-11.11) for doses 12.5-87.5 microg, 2.78 (95% CI: 0.29-11.11) for 100-137.5 microg and 1.97 (95% CI: 0.37-18.95) for these exposed > or = 150 microgI had to read that twice before it sank it. Here the abstract just finished saying there was no significant association and then it says that infants exposed to thimerosal had an increased risk of autism? And this risk went up (more or less) as the dose of thimerosal increased?
Say what?
Of course the answer to this conundrum rests in the word "significant", as in statistically significant. The researchers could not be confident that the relationship was not due to random chance. And the 95% confidence intervals listed reflect that fact.
For example, if you take look at that first set up numbers, a child was almost one and a half times more likely to develop autism if they were exposed to anywhere between 12.5 to 87.5 micrograms of thimerosal than a child who was not. But there is a 95% chance than the odds could have been anywhere from one third less likely all the way to more than 11 times more likely.
Or in other words, you can be mostly confident that you have no clue what the real relationship is.
Even still, I would love to be able to read this study and see what the numbers were. Because it looks like there might be something interesting going on with the data. Is the data evenly distributed and that is causing the wide intervals or is the data grouped together, possibly highlighting a vulnerable subset?
If only I could read Polish.
Anyway, even if this study did show an increased risk of autism after exposure to thimerosal and that the risk increased as the exposure to thimerosal increased, it would not be anywhere near enough to overturn the other studies that show the opposite. All it could do is put a little doubt in your mind that something was missed in the earlier studies.
References
Mrozek-Budzyn D, Majewska R, Kieltyka A, Augustyniak M. [Lack of association between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism]. Przegl Epidemiol. 2011;65(3):491-5. Polish. PubMed PMID: 22184954.
Time to put this baby to bed. Thimerosal I mean.
ReplyDeleteI'm still trying to understand if thimerosal caused autism, why there would not have been a corresponding decrease in pertussis which would have been of a much greater magnitude than the autism increase in prevalence. Also, if interested you can read my piece, thimerosal and autism: is there really a correlation
ReplyDeleteFirst,it is clear that if the question was TCV cause autism in the general population the answer is no without one epi study...therefore the idea of susceptible populations of children should be properly considered. BTW, the number of vaccines, timing, breastfeeding and the prevalence of autism in Poland should be also considered to analyze these results
ReplyDeleteSecond, what confounders were analyzed in the manuscript prenatal, neonatal and postnatal?
Third, how the manuscript matches with these recent published results- that consider the clinical aspects- not the epidemiological ones and the one exploring plausibility?
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www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22163375 (open)
2-REcent studies of thimerosal in rats from Poland and on TNFa expresion?
Four, what were the diagnosis of the children and what number of children were vaccinated with TCV and what number of children were vaccinated with thimerosal free vaccines?
Five, what is the complete schedule of vaccination in Poland and how it is compared to USA-UK in number and timing?
Six, what kind of significance statistical analysis was performed and what diagnosis were considered?
Why the conclusion with the statistics?
Seven, why so simple questions are still done when it is known that autism has epigenetic components, multiple stressors- not only vaccines but also combination of vaccines and antibiotics and antipyretics and their impact in susceptible individuals with an incredible heterogeneous presentation?
Eight under this question, other vaccines such as MMR without thimerosal- varicella or the hepattis A vaccines were not included and they should- if autism is correlated with a neuroimmune hypothesis
Nine considering all the above, the frame is very incomplete to obtain such conclussions, especially when tics are known to be correlate with thimerosal exposure and at this point thimerosal should be considered sinergic with aluminium in the potential of damage in vulnerable individuals- if vaccines are considered- to begin with (thinking in ASIA conditions and Myofasciitis macrophagica).
Ten without the consideration of confounders and a new deep analysis of the anecdotic evidence plus the associated clinical findings, no useful conclusions are going to be obtained
ML
Amen to above anonymous poster.
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